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prymitive 40 minutes ago [-]
It’s mind boggling that in the UK there’s a law that says:
> “A plank of wood must not be carried along a pavement. It can only be moved if it is being unloaded from a vehicle or taken into a building.”
But big tech cannot be regulated at all.
We used to regulate any minor thing that was annoying enough, but a whole industry spying and prying on the whole population is fine.
throaway3534621 12 minutes ago [-]
> But big tech cannot be regulated at all.
It cannot be regulated because we let dollar/capital rise above political authority.
throaway3534621 6 minutes ago [-]
I remember watching this [1] couple of years ago wrt to capital; market; China; US and I'm starting to believe China's model is one we should strive for. Why isn't there AI scare/doom/replacement talk in China? It's because of that - the capital does not raise above the political authority.
The plank rule just exists, not enforced, so nobody observes it.
Same will happen with the high-tech regulation. In fact, it is already happening left and right where it does exist.
gentlerain 22 minutes ago [-]
Samsung is starting to be a little too much creepy.
I don't know if it's just greed or.
I refused to create an account on their galaxy phone because of the mandatory phone number needed. Yes, I know they can harvest it in other ways, it's just a stand.
bayindirh 16 minutes ago [-]
If people can hustle for a little side money, corporations can do it as well. Why not?
Corporations are considered persons and they need to pay shareholders.
Seriously, it’s pure greed and people who love money enable this, because they think they are immune to this, or harmless.
jacquesm 8 minutes ago [-]
If they're doing this to TVs, what are they doing with phones?
breakingcups 37 minutes ago [-]
Who needs DRM like HDCP if you can just use the capabilities baked into the TV to your advantage?
jareklupinski 1 hours ago [-]
i wonder if the Samsung / LG stuff is how the stock market seemed so "predictable" to some people in early morning trading for a while... imagine having the keys to buckets containing all the plaintext gathered from all the tvs listening in conference rooms on earnings days...
gruez 42 minutes ago [-]
>how the stock market seemed so "predictable" to some people in early morning trading for a while
Has this been quantified? Otherwise it's easy to fall for confirmation bias, eg. "facebook is secretly listening to you"
xg15 34 minutes ago [-]
> confirmation bias, eg. "facebook is secretly listening to you"
Agreeing with your general point - don't jump to conclusions without evidence - but I don't like if we're now establishing the "Facebook/Google/Apple is secretly listening to you" rumors as the canonical example of that behavior, and thereby making those companies immune to further scrutiny.
We've seen that by now there exist both the will and the technical means to pull off stuff like this, so even if it used to be a baseless rumor and urban legend, it deserves to be re-checked periodically, because companies might start to do it for real at some point. Samsung here actually did.
(Google also came awfully close with its "song detector" which is now a stock Android feature I think)
Terr_ 40 minutes ago [-]
Y'all remember the Energy Star logo on computers?
Maybe it's time for something like that, a shared baseline standard of "this thing won't spy on you", with massive financial penalties for companies caught lying about it. Prime adoption by making it a requirement for anything bought by the government.
Then consumers can reliably comparison-shop for a "TV" that doesn't turn into a traitorous 1984 telescreen the moment it breaks out of the LAN or you fail to click "maybe later" on its incessant dark pattern pop-ups.
How else will they subsidize the cost of the jumbotron in your living room?
egamirorrim 1 hours ago [-]
This stuffs mad, should I be doing something to my Samsung TV to neuter it? Has anyone rolled all this up somewhere?
Gigachad 55 minutes ago [-]
There needs to be a class action against these companies. People should straight up go to jail for how invasive these TVs are.
ozgrakkurt 11 minutes ago [-]
Selling it off might be a good solution
chinathrow 1 hours ago [-]
Unplug it.
KetoManx64 54 minutes ago [-]
Do a search on X on the topic, the news about Samsung was broken on there by a guy who had rooted his Samsung TV using AI tools and he and others created guides for neutering the stuff out of it
matkoniecz 1 hours ago [-]
Not buy smart TVs and especially Samsung smart devices in general?
From what I heard these are especially awful, even by low IoT standards.
Gigachad 55 minutes ago [-]
All smart TVs are evil and you’d be hard pressed to find a non smart tv these days.
killingtime74 1 hours ago [-]
It's as if an intern added it and then they just forgot about it.
hypfer 21 minutes ago [-]
Wasn't that used to squeeze better power efficiency etc out of the device by optimizing the parameters based on the content?
I mean it is probably also used to collect data, but this sounds like it might be more than just that. Maybe?
They're running it and then throwing away the result if you don't consent? Way to waste electricity...
Gigachad 54 minutes ago [-]
This is why TVs are always so laggy, they have 400 ad and tracking scripts running the whole time.
unstatusthequo 1 hours ago [-]
I sure wish Tizen was rooted. I’d love to custom flash over the slow ass Samsung UI.
BlackRabbit1 1 hours ago [-]
Time to invest a few tokens into an unneuthered model
SSLy 1 hours ago [-]
Is there anyone serving such inference? I can't fit anything usable on my hardware.
Jolter 55 minutes ago [-]
I believe Mistral models are fairly capable at cybersecurity tasks, but I don’t think you could get anything useful out of anything smaller than Mistral Large 4.
lousken 1 hours ago [-]
now is the best time in history to buy a tv
just hack it right after purchase and own the glass
> “A plank of wood must not be carried along a pavement. It can only be moved if it is being unloaded from a vehicle or taken into a building.”
But big tech cannot be regulated at all. We used to regulate any minor thing that was annoying enough, but a whole industry spying and prying on the whole population is fine.
It cannot be regulated because we let dollar/capital rise above political authority.
[1] Eric Li on the CCP and Capital's role in America, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzz5swYfVKk
The plank rule just exists, not enforced, so nobody observes it.
Same will happen with the high-tech regulation. In fact, it is already happening left and right where it does exist.
I don't know if it's just greed or.
I refused to create an account on their galaxy phone because of the mandatory phone number needed. Yes, I know they can harvest it in other ways, it's just a stand.
Corporations are considered persons and they need to pay shareholders.
Seriously, it’s pure greed and people who love money enable this, because they think they are immune to this, or harmless.
Has this been quantified? Otherwise it's easy to fall for confirmation bias, eg. "facebook is secretly listening to you"
Agreeing with your general point - don't jump to conclusions without evidence - but I don't like if we're now establishing the "Facebook/Google/Apple is secretly listening to you" rumors as the canonical example of that behavior, and thereby making those companies immune to further scrutiny.
We've seen that by now there exist both the will and the technical means to pull off stuff like this, so even if it used to be a baseless rumor and urban legend, it deserves to be re-checked periodically, because companies might start to do it for real at some point. Samsung here actually did.
(Google also came awfully close with its "song detector" which is now a stock Android feature I think)
Maybe it's time for something like that, a shared baseline standard of "this thing won't spy on you", with massive financial penalties for companies caught lying about it. Prime adoption by making it a requirement for anything bought by the government.
Then consumers can reliably comparison-shop for a "TV" that doesn't turn into a traitorous 1984 telescreen the moment it breaks out of the LAN or you fail to click "maybe later" on its incessant dark pattern pop-ups.
From what I heard these are especially awful, even by low IoT standards.
I mean it is probably also used to collect data, but this sounds like it might be more than just that. Maybe?
I'm not sure it's literal enough.
just hack it right after purchase and own the glass